Life Unscripted with Kevin Shook
Welcome to 'Life Unscripted with Kevin Shook', a heartening podcast where embracing vulnerability is the key to success. Join your host, Kevin, as he dives into the stories of remarkable individuals who have transformed their lives by opening up, facing challenges, and finding strength in their most vulnerable moments. Each episode features inspiring conversations with guests from various walks of life. Kevin's journey of embracing vulnerability has led him to meet amazing people, and now he brings their wisdom, laughter, and insights to you. Tune in and discover how embracing your vulnerabilities can lead to your greatest victories in life, both personally & professionally.
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Life Unscripted with Kevin Shook
From Tornadoes to Triumphs: Life Unscripted
Navigating the unpredictable twists of life's journey, we return with stories that tug at your heartstrings and tickle your funny bone. This time around, we share touching updates on the newest member of Adetokunbo’s family—a lovable rescue pup named Austin—and dive deep into the spirited resilience of communities like Winchester, struck by devastating weather. We laugh, we ponder, and we even offer a rare glimpse into the challenging yet rewarding experience of paramedicine.
As a former firefighter with roots in Winchester, Indiana, I open up about the impact of institutional mistakes, emphasizing the crucial role of transparency and vulnerability. We celebrate the unheralded heroes like YouTube weather predictor Matt Hall, whose dedication keeps us informed and safe. And in a candid conversation, we discuss the delicate balance between one's identity and societal pressures, as well as the pure joy that comes with watching a new life enter the world under less-than-ideal circumstances—a testament to the unpredictable nature of our existence.
Finally, we champion those who dare to dream, those who, like Jeff Bezos and Gary Vaynerchuk, turned their wildest ideas into realities. Encouraging you to embrace your most outlandish concepts, we conclude this episode with an invigorating reminder of the power of self-belief. Tune in for tales of real-life adventures, laughter, and an inspiring call to action to pursue what truly fulfills you, even if it means forging your own, unique path.
Life Unscripted with Kevin Shook, all right.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to another episode of Life, unscripted. Unscripted. I have a dead of cumbo that should lay next to me. Usually, as always, it's my ride or die right here. That's role. I appreciate it. So how was your week? It was a good week, wasn't it like a week ago when we recorded up here Like a week ago yeah, the first episode, and I thought the episode went great.
Speaker 1:Got to listen to it again. I was like man it was. I was really glad. I was really glad to be on here. I'm really glad you invited me over to do this. Yeah, I told you then. I was like man. Let me know You're ready to do another one. You can call me anytime.
Speaker 2:After I watched well edited and then watched the episode again, I was like I think I almost owe you money for being my therapist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we owe the viewers and other viewers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, but that was a good episode. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Anything else you did this week Anything fun exciting fun, exciting. How's was a dog.
Speaker 1:How's Austin? Ok, so Austin, did I mention Austin last time? I don't know. If I didn't, you didn't. So tell everybody about Austin. Austin is a is a mixed dog. He's a miniature poodle or toy poodle, one of those small poodles in a Cavalier, and he's a cute little tin fur ball. Essentially it looks like a little football and he's a rescue from one of our family members who wasn't able to take care of him, and he's adjusting in a household with us and he's just the sweetest, cutest little thing around. So we're putting some weight on him and he's getting all confident and comfortable and playing for our other dogs.
Speaker 1:So I was actually going to bring him today, but I was running back and forth trying to take care of stuff, so maybe one day we'll get to see him more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely bring him in. I was looking at Vaynerchuk like you want to go to the studio today. Yes, even had his harness on him and he has a heart but a leash, and we were. I was walking him outside but it was a little too cold so it's a little chilly. He stayed at home today?
Speaker 1:Yeah, does he? Does he ride on your shoulder?
Speaker 2:No, I mean, if I have him in a vehicle he'll bounce around everywhere. I got you, I got you. I took him to the milkhouse the other day. He's just like kind of freaking out I think it's because I don't get him out enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I take a more walk, more walks.
Speaker 2:So I'm a little more serious now. Last week, Thursday night, we had some severe storms in our area Tornado watches, tornado warnings and then there was actually a tornado touchdown in Selma, which is right outside of Muncie and Delaware County.
Speaker 1:Indiana, Indiana.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that tornado made its way over through Winchester, which is where I kind of grew up.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's like where I started my career as a fireman. Yeah, yeah, little town of Mayberry is what I called it, kind of Andy Griffith Everybody. Yeah, really yeah, you know to a couple of restaurants, but it was sad because it literally destroyed houses, oh my, destroyed some restaurants. There was pictures of the Taco Bell, yeah, being completely leveled with, like the exception of the menu outside to that, the drive through, so like the menu held up, which was just I don't get it yeah.
Speaker 2:Have you ever been like in a tornado, or have you have you seen a tornado before?
Speaker 1:I mean Twister. I grew up on Twisters, you know watching the movie. So no, I mean directly. No, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've never seen one in real life. Now nowhere near close, but I was. I was. You know a lot of these friends and family that's up there. They're in my newsfeed, so you're getting this information?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm live right now Real time, so I turn on the scanner traffic. Yeah, for Randolph County, and you know I'm listening to people trapped in houses and the hospital up there it's a rural access hospital, so it's basically an ER with some capabilities of other services, but they usually transfer people out from the ER to bigger hospitals for more care. They were like bombarded with, I think, the last number and don't hold me to any of this, ok, because I mean, of course, a lot of it's social media, right, right, but it was like 38 patients. Just all of a sudden boom in the ER, in the waiting room, oh my God, there was only one physician on staff.
Speaker 1:So oh my gosh. For those who don't know, I mean like capacity, like there's only so many beds in a facility and only so many people around to help. So a small ER hospital, a small one, get here with 38 people immediately, that's, that's, that's crazy. Oh yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I mean, I started my EMS career up there at Randolph County in 2005. So I'm familiar with this hospital and it literally has maybe 10 beds in the year, oh, wow.
Speaker 1:And so, most likely, I'm just trying to have a scale of people who may not have any experience. So it's like, you know, you got your four fiesta, you know, and suddenly you got to take, I think it has.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it has 11 beds. Oh, wow, it's been a while since I've been up there, but there was. There's a room with four and there's two what you call like trauma rooms. They each have two. And then there's a cast room. It has one, and then there's other couple other rooms.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean, and how many people are already there? So it's not like it's necessary, just open. It was absolutely like they could have already been at capacity then.
Speaker 2:Right and they got bombarded and I mean they were treating people in the waiting room and everything else. And then throughout, you know, backing way up to 9, 11 and a lot of things after 9, 11 came in place and one of those were like the districts. So Randolph County is in what's called District 6. And that's basically a group of counties that come together in a very severe time in a very multi-casualty type setting, and so they brought, like I think, up to 20 something amylanses arrived like right away from all different agencies.
Speaker 1:What a quick response.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah and just started transferring these patients. There was a MICU mobile intensive care unit from Ohio that came up, you know, and I'm watching all of this through social and everything else. And then you know social media is and people's adrenaline and everything else A lot of misinformation got put out there that there were three fatalities as of, I think, yesterday. It's still zero fatalities, no one's died from this. There were three that were critical but so far as of I think yesterday, when I seen the last update on their website or on their Facebook, the Sheriff's Department there were no fatalities.
Speaker 2:Which, if you look and see the damage online, one of my friends there, his house, like it ripped the top floor of his house up, like off. You know it's a two-story house with like a master, it's like a master suite above the garage type situation and stuff. It's totally that got ripped off and then the like the house is just destroyed and ripped up his roof and everything else. So there was a big path, you know, and then some colleagues of mine went up and did some drone work to inspect, to see the path and so far they've been saying it's a EF three and it's like at the upper end of it.
Speaker 1:You have three. What Tell us what that all means exactly?
Speaker 2:The severity of the tornado. It's on a scale. So you have three is very serious, obviously, but it's very, very sad and I'm seeing, like today, they're, you know, they're still cleaning up, they're still, yeah, boarding houses that can be boarded, that are still there. But it's very sad. It reminds me when I was one, there was a tornado that came through Lynn, indiana, which is nine miles south of exactly where this tornado was, and my mother, my grandmother, my aunt, they all live in Lynn.
Speaker 1:Oh OK.
Speaker 2:And at the time I kind of I lived there too with my mom, but then I also stayed with my dad half the time down in Richmond, down here where we're at. So I'm not sure what we're aware about I know I was one year old, I was a one year old and but a tornado pretty much leveled in Lynn took out the school, took out all kinds of stuff. So the way you hear people in Lynn talk about you know, after the tornado or before the tornado, you know on a larger scale, kind of like 911. Right it's, it's like it's a new chapter after I see. So I kind of see how Winchester it's like now. It's like a whole new rebuild chapter. Yeah, but it was very. I mean, it gives me goosebumps thinking about seeing all the different fire departments, all the different EMS entities come together.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know there was some from like Centerville down here went up and staffed the fire department up there and stuff. So it was really cool being from that community, seeing that that and how people reacted, especially locally. There's a lot of people I know from Richmond that they took bottles of water, food, donated food, just any way they could help possible, which is just amazing. And that leads me to tell everyone, if you visit blackdogprintingorg or visit their Facebook page on social media, they're actually running a fundraiser for Winchester, nice. So any of these t-shirts and there's some pretty cool t-shirts, especially if you're from Winchester, I mean it hits home. There's four or five designs you can pick from and proceeds go up to Winchester. So again, blackdogprintingorg or blackdogprinting on Facebook to take part in this and I think after shipping it was like 30 bucks or something which we spend so much more. That doesn't benefit.
Speaker 2:Winchester or a community that's going through a lot of hard time right now. But it was wild. It was real wild and I thought some of it was going to come down here the way it was predicted. I've watched Matt Hall on YouTube Live. This guy literally links up, he runs a live stream anytime there's severe weather coming across the United States and he has multiple storm chasers throughout the states that will hop on the feed with him so they'll switch back and forth and he called everything that happened like right away and based on radar, you know, and then he goes back and says that's a debris signature right there. So obviously they had touchdown. It was exactly in point. So up at one point it was up to like 87,000 viewers was watching this live stream. That's a lot and they people can donate.
Speaker 1:During that live stream.
Speaker 2:I think he got up to like sixty thousand dollars Thursday night. So what they do is they take that money, go to that area and then help that's awesome. Yeah, that is pretty awesome and it every time there's a breakout. It's not just Indiana, it's crossed the whole United States. They'll follow it. I think he's actually down in Kentucky where he's based out of and runs his live stream.
Speaker 1:Wow, is this guy just an independent or no? Yeah, just a youtuber guy. Just a youtuber.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah he's got a nice little setup and he's really good at it and monitoring the weather and, yeah, and it's just really neat because he'll touch Back and forth on each storm and stuff and then soon as one of them becomes more severe, he'll make sure he's covering that. And who?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's what a wonderful service.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's wild because we can get on, you know, like weather bug and weather calm or whatever, and all these different radars and look at stuff and it says you know 50% chance, right, okay, great. So it's really hard to pinpoint that sometimes if you're not a meteorologist. Yeah, absolutely knowing what you're looking at.
Speaker 1:So I have someone break that down for you like hey, this is what's going on?
Speaker 2:most likely like okay, oh, and and check this out. So Weather sirens you know they've been around for a long time. Yeah, there was a while where they would let them, they would activate them for like, not that serious of weather. So no one takes the sirens that serious anymore. And now there's a lot of testing issues. So, as like a lot of you probably know, I'm a paramedic Right, so I've been in public safety since 2005. Okay, so my whole, you know, after a high school era, is always been in public safety. So in this county, how working and they they've been having a lot of issues with their tornado sirens and Testing them and getting them fixed and and the same with the radios and the tones and stuff. So they literally tested the sirens during the severe weather. They that's anymore.
Speaker 2:This is not a right that he his, his defense was. He didn't think they would work. So don't, don't fucking test the weather, the tornado siren during the severe weather. You're better off not just don't test it right now, don't. Instead yeah, well, a lot of people did have comments, including like the National Weather Service and stuff. Oh, they commented on their social saying it's not a good idea to test your sirens during severe weather.
Speaker 1:That's so. I was watching some TV's weather station. They were talking about sirens and so they're like we don't get to judge or choose when the sirens or activate something to that. So I don't know that has. I don't know, but that is very.
Speaker 2:They said them all. The dispatch does, okay, your county Mecca and dispatch does, but they deleted that comment.
Speaker 1:Which learning lessons, guys learning?
Speaker 2:okay, you're the intelligent one here, so a Public entity deleting a comment? It doesn't look so good. Isn't that like first amendment stuff, or is it not?
Speaker 1:I don't know, because social media is its own kind of animal, so they may have their own purview to. I mean to delete things that come up on their channel, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I could imagine someone said like you effing this or something like that, you got to leave that stuff. Landriss yeah malicious, malicious intent. You know, there's there's categories, but if someone, just if you just got called out because your own stupidity the legality of it.
Speaker 1:I'm uncertain, but what I am certain of, it doesn't look good you know, I know, and especially in a county that gets hit hard.
Speaker 2:They get hit hard with storms on the Western side.
Speaker 1:I mean Hypothetically. I'm not gonna comment on her particular situation. Hypothetically it's something like that happens and you may mess up and it doesn't look good, but it's much better just to be transparent about very and then to learn from it. It's like mistakes happen mistakes mistakes happen and unfortunately, mistakes happen in serious situations.
Speaker 2:They still happen, it's right, I've made a lot of stuff happens, yeah, but on it.
Speaker 1:You know like it's like, on it and move forward. Figure out the next step you got to do to move forward as far as I know, they didn't own it.
Speaker 2:They're still like so.
Speaker 1:I'm just talking about hypothetical group of people.
Speaker 2:Someone's probably up for employment Because that's a very that's a bad bad, that's just a bad, and I've made a lot of fucking mistakes in life and but I've owned every single one of them. Some of them might have taken longer, but there and there's a process of all of this and you become very vulnerable, and that's part of me doing this podcast is because I Don't give a shit. Now I need to be open and transparent about everything, whether it's my life or someone else's or business what not? Because I feel there is so much freedom to this, so the power of vulnerability is Amazing. Going back to that particular incident, they should not do either that comment.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's just because now.
Speaker 2:Because you can lose trust. How hard is it to say I'm?
Speaker 1:sorry we messed up, but then again I will say I don't, I don't know. Their situation not common, or their situation, don't come after me, guys. But sometimes Institutions, will someone institution even, is not the person who made a mistake someone else who might have more power may say get rid of that. That doesn't look good for us, get rid of that. So we don't know who chose someone to do that.
Speaker 2:Someone else with more power said get rid of that person that made that decision. Yeah, and that's why some you like I don't, I don't think it's always that magnitude of Fuck up. I think it's Not understanding that you fucked up hmm, If you think you're still in the right right.
Speaker 1:Right, that's as I said.
Speaker 2:You didn't learn that's actually, if you don't see the mistake, you are the problem.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, yeah, I am more so. And even to build on that, if you refuse to see as a mistake or you refuse to Acknowledge, oh, absolutely, because someone could bring something to you like, hey, this is a problem. You're like, no, no, it's not like wait, hold on. No, yeah, right now now.
Speaker 2:Now we're the problem. Yeah, now we got some issues, so I'm excited to see how that ends out. It's been wild over on the west side of indy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, I hope things, hope. I hope this is a learning lesson, and I don't mean I'll learn lesson with people or whatever, you know, I mean I just I hope. So sometimes we find out a problem happens. We don't necessarily want to be reactive if we want to figure out what is the long-term solution to this, you can still figure that out quickly. But, like, figure it out, don't just be your actionary, you know. Don't just say, oh, we had this, this problem. We must do all these things because then you might build more problems. So, and Sometimes just firing a person isn't the solution, like it might be, like one of our protocols.
Speaker 2:What? I think this is a pattern. I think this has been a pattern that hasn't been broken, so so is a pattern. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, we don't hear our tones after time, and yeah.
Speaker 1:So that I mean that's that's, that's a that's a problem.
Speaker 2:Right, right, so because that's somebody's life. Yeah, at the end of the day, that's somebody's life, so right, but Kind of shifting gears. Okay, you want to hear a story how I almost got fired from being a paramedic. Probably would have lost my license as well.
Speaker 1:In mind, have had criminal charges. Okay.
Speaker 2:All right based on my documentation.
Speaker 1:Oh, documentation.
Speaker 2:I swear, you know, I told you so serious it is, but Knowing what the hell to say is pretty serious to yes, yes, and I'm not that articulate and I've forgotten some things. Okay okay, with your experience in the medical field, I'm gonna give you a guess. What is one thing, one topic of runs, that her one category runs that we have that were that we never do a lot of, so when we have it, it's like what the that we don't have a lot of yeah what?
Speaker 2:what do we? What did we? Never have a lot of.
Speaker 1:Well, I wanted to say to pain, but no, no, no, no, no, this is this can be a challenge. Don't have a lot of and so and, but this is something we don't have a lot of and we don't get to practice a lot of either. Like okay, so low frequency low low training, which is dangerous.
Speaker 2:No, oh, I risk high risk, low frequency low frequency.
Speaker 1:Hmm, iris low frequency.
Speaker 2:And we know a lot less about it than Others others man this is a brain. All right, I'll give you another hint. I've only did this one time in the field, Because two weeks ago it was actually in the hallway of the hospital.
Speaker 1:Oh, is it childbirth yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so everything went well. The entire run went well, Okay.
Speaker 2:We're uh my auntie and I were at the station and, um, our alerts on our phone goes off and then we hear some of the radio traffic on those radio systems. It says something about at your station in five minutes. I'm like well shit, Because you know we're, because this is like two or three AM, so we're obviously in bed. So I'm like you know, we're throwing our pants on. I don't know what it is yet. So I look at my phone and it just said OB, childbirth, you know, which is just a general dispatch. Yeah, so pull the truck out.
Speaker 2:Uh, this lady hops out of the side of a car holding her big belly, obviously pregnant. She's screaming, so she's probably having contractions. Getting her on the cot, start to take care of her. You know, do all this stuff that we're supposed to do when people are having contractions? You know, especially when they get to like a minute apart, less than a minute apart, you know, um, get to the ER room, Like now, it's just like constant. Okay, I do my visualization. I've been, I visually inspected all that stuff prior in the ambulance, like I'm supposed to Right, Okay, Um, water broke as we're pulling into on the main street in Danville and um, so the water broke in and lady already told me you know I've had two other children. This is my third. I'm not high risk pregnancy, so that's always good. Um, but they come quick. I'm like well, okay, so that OB kids like hanging out right here.
Speaker 1:I got my OB kid.
Speaker 2:I haven't cracked the seal yet, but I know how it all works, yeah, yeah. So I, you know, we get to the hospital, who would throw the OB kid on the cot? We're going upstairs and um visually inspect again cause she's screaming it's out. You know it's not out, dilated, right, but not there yet Right.
Speaker 2:But visually, everything's visually um there. You know, for some reason the hospital always thinks it's really cool to put the birthing center on the opposite side of the hospital from the ER room. Okay, Okay. So either like run, what the? So? Like the ER doctor, like he, like he was going to do something, ran with this and I'm like, okay, I mean, living a baby is actually really simple if the head's coming first, right, and I want to leave it at that for my viewers and listeners, gotcha. But delivering a baby is actually really simple if, if everything goes right. Um, so we're going down the hallway, we're getting the elevator, my EMT's at the head of the cot, so, like right behind the patient's head and everything else, I'm at the end, the doctor's right next to me, from the ER, you know, and she's like now, this is just continuous pushing, she's screaming.
Speaker 1:It's just continuous yeah.
Speaker 2:So we both visually inspect and, uh, the doctor was like, oh, we got plenty of time. Okay, the ER doctor, he was young, he's probably younger than I am Um so so, as the elevator doors are opening, so is everything else, and here comes the head of the baby. So I'm, I put my head, my hand down here to catch the baby Right. So the head's coming out. Worse, now, we're. Now we're there. Everyone thinks we need to run faster, but I'm like backwards.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:At the end of the cot trying to run backwards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm like what? No, let's just. Yeah, we need to take care of the work here.
Speaker 2:Little girl's coming out, we get into the room and the physician from mother baby takes over. Nice Gets the rest of the baby out right. So everything's cool. Everything went well. Baby had full hair, head of hair Um, mom was real happy. Everybody was healthy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it was just one of those. Yeah, it makes up for those runs you have when people die. So it's kind of like I want to say an exchange program, but one in, one out, whatever. So it was cool, it was cool, it was really cool. I was kind of like I wish you delivered earlier because I love like babies. Yeah, I've only delivered one time in the field, so there's like one and a half three quarters, yeah.
Speaker 2:Next year is like 20 years doing this, so, but so next shift. You know I did my report, submitted it, everything. Next shift phone call right at the beginning of my shift. Do your narc exchange, which is like the paramedic that's leaving you got to exchange. Do narc exchange, where it's just an accountability system for all your narcotics that you may use.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, All your sedatives, your pain medications and stuff. And they said do your narc exchange and then mark out a service and then come down here.
Speaker 1:And I'm like that don't sound good.
Speaker 2:No, I'm scared, I'm like. So I'm trying to think in the back of my head.
Speaker 1:Like either you're in trouble or you're about to get an award.
Speaker 2:Like what about to?
Speaker 1:congratulate you or you're in trouble.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing. So they're really good at telling you right away that you're not in trouble. They didn't tell me that Gotcha, like on the phone call, they'll tell you you're not in trouble, okay.
Speaker 1:That. By the way, if you're ever a person to call people to your office, please just tell them immediately they're not in trouble. It makes life so much easier. Tell me if.
Speaker 2:I am in trouble.
Speaker 2:I don't know, just tell me something. Oh my God, that was the longest ride down there. And so I get down there and literally like the boss and the assistant boss, and they said we need to talk to you. And then they closed the door and sent me down and they were like you may remember this run, but here's a copy just in case, and I look at it and it's that lady. I'm like what happened? That was like the most normal run, you know. So I'm reading it.
Speaker 2:And then, apparently, since this is a very low frequency run and I'm not a woman, the way I documented it, though my inspection made it sound like I did things that were semi illegal. Okay, just by the way, I said dilate it. You're wording Okay. So, like the medical director is on the speakerphone, everything, like I'm about to get the pat down, and it was just all based on my wording and like that, because they were like tell us everything from the beginning to the end of this run.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, well, I put my parents on really fast before they got there and you know and this and this and this and this, and then you could tell when I got to the part where, like we got to the hospital and everything else. Wow, and I'm like what they were like well, you made it sound like you did this and I'm like, no, I did it, but just me not being very articulate and then kind of letting those words drift off throughout the years. Yeah, I was like, oh my God, everyone was like I thought we were going to have a party now because they didn't have to, like, take disciplinary action. I was scared. I was still scared, even though, like, I did everything right.
Speaker 1:I'm certain.
Speaker 2:I did everything right. It's fun being paramedic man and I think they've got to know that stress Right, Good job.
Speaker 1:Good job, man Good job.
Speaker 2:It was cool, but I didn't know. Dave Goggins was a paramedic. Yeah, what do you know about that? So is he a medic in Canada?
Speaker 1:I don't exactly know where, but yeah, it came out, he's a paramedic. Like, could you imagine having him as a paramedic?
Speaker 2:Try fucking harder to breathe.
Speaker 1:Don't be a bitch, stay hard, stay hard. He's doing compression.
Speaker 2:Stay hard. He gets put an IV in you and you go out. Stay hard.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, or some of the other words. Oh my God. I remind you, if somehow Dave Goggins ever sees this, we might sound like we love you. Man, you're great. We just imagine how hardcore of an ambulance ride that would be. It be crazy. Or you just stare at you in silence.
Speaker 2:I mean some of the scenarios I'm in, especially with that run. She's screaming. I can see him like stay hard, the baby's coming out.
Speaker 1:Just dig in the cookie jar, you'll be all right, hey that's not determined.
Speaker 2:You got him Call us tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Oh my God.
Speaker 2:I love Dave Goggins. You're up in Indiana, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah when exactly Brazil.
Speaker 2:So between, like Green Castle and Tarah Hope, yeah, he's. So I flipped. Every day I flipped from him to Gary V.
Speaker 1:Which one? Yeah, yeah, those are good guys to listen to and I've been at. You need to get back to listen to what's her name? Ash Amber J.
Speaker 2:I think Ash Amber J fell off the cliff, bro, because she disappeared for a long time and then she rebranded Okay, and she disappeared a long time, and now she went back to the middle finger project.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I feel like she got dude problems.
Speaker 1:Oh hey, they happen.
Speaker 2:No judge here.
Speaker 1:Tripping on a dude, or so Life is life. Life be life, and it's what my friend said to me one time Sometimes life be life and we got to deal with what we're dealing with.
Speaker 2:Life's unscripted as fuck. Yeah, yeah, so be careful That'd be naming there, I know, but I feel like she did, cause you know I did that picture where I was like levitating and reaching for the middle finger project and stuff like that. Yeah, she wanted it and we exchanged some emails a couple of times and stuff, and then I was supposed to hear back from her manager, which that kind of turns me off right away.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean if you got more, like you got time to get on social media and engage with people, you know, especially if you want something to, you want this picture, I mean I gotta have my manager now. I don't get it, but yeah. So I think she kind of fell off the cliff a little bit, I think, or maybe she retired from writing or just took a break.
Speaker 1:Well, I hope she figures it out and I can. I can, I can get why you're like, uh, manager, cause that just doesn't feel as like when you have a conversation to one and you feel like you can do a handshake on it and like we're good, that's what you're on and that's who you are, you know. So that may be who they are, but then then again the other side is some people realize that there are the other details that they don't want to pay attention to. Like listen, this person handles all these other back details that I don't really want to pay attention to, and I don't want to say that because they throw me off. So I don't, like I could have seen myself doing that, like I don't want to talk about the business aspects of it. I like this talk to this person, let's figure it out, but that person should then be on top of it.
Speaker 1:It wasn't even like a transaction.
Speaker 2:I'm just a YouTube.
Speaker 1:I told her, I just wanted a bunch of copies of her book.
Speaker 2:So I could. Just that seems so easy, I, so I could just give them the people because it's the middle finger projects. Awesome, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like okay, she has another book out there.
Speaker 2:I don't know if she'd be published it or not, but on her social Okay. So she switched everything to another name and then, Maybe six months ago I seen it went back to the middle finger project and so I mean, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Marriott and Marky is a very lively thing and life be life and so Life be life. So as you do your thing, girl, we appreciate the middle finger project book because that that I mean that spoke to me. I mean Ash Rick kind of. I think she beat up on the idea of one of them is like in him.
Speaker 2:Imposter syndrome. Imposter syndrome.
Speaker 1:Yeah and Ash, I mean her story is great. I mean she's a Pennsylvania Boop Boop Reggie offensive and she talks about, you know, growing up basically poor and then having to adjust to a new cultural environment with people who got all the nice lattes and the cute little dogs and all that stuff. And I'm like girl, I understand what you say right now Now our poorness, our growing up poor, was different.
Speaker 1:She had a trailer park. I lived in the hood, it was so it was different. But I was like I understand Right, I understand exactly what you mean. It's an adjustment. So I really appreciate her books. I haven't been looked at in a while but her because I mean she talks about kind of staying center, you know, not chasing after things just to fit in these different cultural groups.
Speaker 2:Oh, she's very against the grain and that's like I know. She filled my cup up many times, All three of them.
Speaker 1:I guess that's the thing. All three of them are against the grain David Goggins, gary Vee and Ash, absolutely Ash, yeah.
Speaker 2:There's a reason they're where they're at. Yeah, they're not just fitting in somewhere, and that's what we, we need to really good point. Yeah, that's what like, once you can develop yourself and not desire to fit in. You know, we have our circles and usually the smaller your circle the better, because they understand you Right.
Speaker 2:And you understand them, you know. But once you can let go of the big circles and because at the larger your circle is, the more you're probably trying to work harder to impress them, right and that takes you into like are they, are you very empathetic of them or are they very empathetic of you? If you're working hard and now you just lost your, you really don't have your own identity, right, because you're working so hard to for these accolades and to impress these people that it just doesn't fucking matter. And Gary Vee and Dave Goggins and Ash Amber today, those are all fine examples of do you boo, do you boo, boo, do you.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Yeah, and, and, and. They've all had to work hard to get there. And you know, gary Vee has had this very nice sense of kind of where his life is going, although he struggled with school a little bit. I don't think he cared, but school was hard for him because it wasn't his thing, but it seemed like he already knew. Like I got, I got my direction. But David Goggins and Ash, they definitely came up on some hardships and had to forge who very clearly for to they were going to be.
Speaker 1:I mean Gary Vee to. I'm not say that, I just feel like he's a little different. But you know, in a society where everyone's telling him school, school, school and he's getting like F's and stuff that he doesn't care about or D's, at least you know, as a bass he's getting D's and stuff he doesn't care about, but he knows what he wants, right, you know? And one of the best things for him is he at least knew who, that community of people who actually care, like he knew his mom loved him, knew it, knew it you know, knew it, and so he just went about his pathway.
Speaker 1:you know, then you got David Goggins, his ups and downs and figuring out him and figuring out how other people's judgments are definitely a reflection of them. I mean, like, if you guys ever get a chance to read his first book, that's, that's the one I could speak from. He really talks about stealing people's souls, but it is essentially sometimes people like to judge others and and put position themselves higher, but it's because they have their own problems.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they have their own and they're very insecure about stuff, right, extremely insecure. And it took me a long time to realize that because a lot of times I was that bad person you know, throughout the years. You know I wasn't so great all the time and I would judge people and everything else. But then I realized I'm only doing that because I'm a fat ass, because I'm sad, because I'm, you know, no self esteem, no confidence. I'm only being an asshole because I am an asshole to myself, like I'm not loving myself, right. So it's kind of like it's bad, because then you get on that lash out program right, where you just start lashing out and stuff.
Speaker 1:And you don't even, you may not even they not even realize it, and that's scary too. You may not. You may not realize your lash now, you may not realize your lashing out in a way that hurts someone else, right, you know? I think we talked about this a little bit in the last episode, but loving yourself is so key because if, if you don't understand how to treat yourself well and how to deal with your own negative voices and and the restrictions that other people have tried to place on you early on, you may have the best of tensions, but it will still leak out. Right, it will still leak out. I mean, here's it. I mean this is not the best example.
Speaker 1:An example I have is like of my mom talking to me about doing art as a kid. I mean, I, I somehow control, he certainly was a kid, um, and you know, some parents are very supportive, like, hey, you know, go for your pathway. Well, lots of people don't believe in art, and that was just especially right then and there, especially right then and there. And you know, my mom, I was like.
Speaker 1:I really like art. She's like you can't make any money with that, don't worry about that. I mean, just cut it down, dead gone. And I now, mind you, better understand. I understand why she would say that you haven't seen anyone make money with art.
Speaker 2:There's a culture that you can't make. It's different art. Yeah, it's, it's different. It's not society's norm.
Speaker 1:It's not society's norm, and for a black kid from a poor family has definitely ain't the norm. Flash forward years. You know what do we have? We have graphic design. That wasn't really so much a thing then, but that's something that was an option. You know, I, my partner, her, she, she, she went to art school. You know, she, her mentor, first art teacher, was an African American. You know who has a career from being a painter whole career. So it could be done.
Speaker 1:But, as I think you know, some compassion is like. Here you have a single mother who just wants the best for their child. Who knows what dreams they were told they could not have, and all they're trying to do is protect their child's future. And so when you think about that way, it's like man. But then you're like but what if they said, hey, we can find a way to do this, we just had to be creative. But her want to take care of her lack of practicing with her own issues stopped her from seeing that vision and so in a way, she caused harm without ever meaning to. So it's really sad. When you think about it. It's also kind of like man they love so much. But so that's what it means Like if you don't work on your own self, even when you're trying to do your best to love and care for someone else, those things you haven't handled can run it all and run it all, and you don't know if they're at their tipping point.
Speaker 1:You never know, you never just put them right over the edge.
Speaker 2:And you know some people are closer to the edge, some people are further from the edge. You don't know. And that's kind of why you have to be very empathetic and think about. You know they might be having a really bad fucking time right now. They might be at this horrible point in their life and just one negative like oh, you can't do that. That might be like you know what you're right and they go home and it's over.
Speaker 1:And that's that, it's that is so you got to live with it. Yeah, I live with it. If you ever find out, you may never know, like, oh man, so, so past, I don't know, never know that you had that impact. It's like the opposite of like when you smile to someone or just say something nice and polite to them. I could, literally, literally, could say someone's day or or absolutely.
Speaker 2:That's what I was going to say. The opposite direction, just a pat on the back. Yeah, and you might not wholeheartedly believe that they can do it. Yeah, but you know, if you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Don't say anything at all. Don't tear somebody down.
Speaker 1:Don't tear anyone down.
Speaker 2:Don't tear anyone down, and that's where you have to be very empathetic. I can think of a time where I was told so I asked a friend of mine that was in the drones one time we were working together and I asked him if this was years ago. I just because I just got the drone, I just got started learning the drone how to use it, I haven't went on and got my part 107 through the FAA yet, which you have to have and do anything commercially. I asked him if there might be business into drone work, whether it was like real estate or just you know. I was just brainstorming and he told me that day he said probably not. If someone needs something done, you know drones are so cheap now they probably just could get a drone right. Like three years later I'm paying him to help me because I'm overwhelmed with drone work.
Speaker 2:Wow it just keeps building, wow Right.
Speaker 1:It wasn't, it wasn't like right, but that that wasn't they were giving you that information and run with it. You didn't take that information and run with it. They'll take it with a grain of salt, right? But like you, you forged your own path. So, whatever choice mechanism, man, maybe you know what, what you thought back then. If you don't, that's fine. But whatever choice you made, you decide to continue along your particular path, and that made it clearly.
Speaker 2:And you can use. So there is negative motivation in. I know he wasn't being like super negative with him. He's a good, he's a great friend, right, we're really good friends. That was just his opinion and based on his experience with playing with drones, and so he just has a different mindset than I did, you know, but I use it as motivation, okay, so I'm like all right well I have his opinion. So I'm going to go build a business off this. So at least get it, at least get it LLC, you know.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that really would you like. Wow that crazy.
Speaker 2:But then I talked to a friend of mine, chandra. She's a realtor, asked her about drones and residential for real estate and I asked her you know I was like, do you think there would be any ROI to this? If you know I've paid and got my license and everything else. And she's like, oh, absolutely. So that's what pushed me into it more.
Speaker 2:But nice hearing people say that you can't or just saying that it might be a bad idea. They're not really throwing rocks at you, but they're not empowering you either. Right, okay, if you can use that as motivation, you can already use positive, right, as you know. Hey, go get them, tiger. Yeah you can already use that shit as motivation. You should never not be motivated.
Speaker 1:I guess that yeah.
Speaker 2:You know. So if there's ever instance where someone's like telling you that or just looking at you weird or something, because you're not, because people can tell when you don't you don't believe in what they're doing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, You're already like, yeah, like you even know like the ad is that you don't got enough to say. You don't say anything. Oh, but body language is just, and they're better.
Speaker 2:I said you know it's better off to be honest If somebody catches you off guard, that's fine, right, and it is better off to be honest. And they don't think you can do it Like I don't even fucking do it, so prove me wrong. You know, there's always a little follow up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:There's always Well said, well said yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or explain their rationale behind their thinking, because then you might explain some and then you're going to both learn off of this little encounter. So, yeah, I would never shy away from what your, your dreams and ambitions, just because someone else is trying to live in society's expectations of life, and that's why we have a podcast called life unscripted. Yeah, because obviously my life has not been anything of traditional, so this is very non-traditional life I have, but society expects you, you know, or at least so I think we're getting more and more away from non-traditional living, right.
Speaker 1:As we can, we don't have the foundations to keep the traditional living. I know, I know Well, that's my experience.
Speaker 2:So, but I've seen it and I still see it in. You know a lot of these families that grow up and nothing's broken, right they, they're pressured to get married at a young age. You know kids by time they're 25, married by the time they're 20. Wait a minute. I think no, in college, by the time they graduate high school, and then a kid four years later, and then married before the kid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a certain order. They have to do all this stuff because their parents sold them, they had to and everything else. And then they end up getting cheated on because they married the wrong person, they had kids by the wrong person, they're divorced, single mom, and then they spiral the fuck out because they just got out, they just lived this perfect life from childhood. So they have no idea what to do now. Right, you know it's in there in a lot worse spot than what they could have been If they would have just developed their own beliefs, right, yes, and then forge their own path. Yes, yes, yes. And I hate seeing it because now you know you just took that person. That was like raising this perfect household, loving family, goes to the church every Sunday, everything else. And now they're working at Speedway, making $10 an hour, paying a college tuition, and they're a single parent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or let's say that's not the case. They're not working at Speedway, but they they either went to college for an hour or got a or got a great factory job, but they hate their life, Right, they're miserable and that's.
Speaker 2:That's because they didn't get to do what they wanted. I'm glad you said hey your life, because that's true success is being happy. It doesn't matter how much you make or anything else, true success is being happy. But you cannot tell me some of these kids that get pumped in to live in a traditional lifestyle are happy when they're in so much college debt, working a career that doesn't need that degree, and now they have their single parents because they married the wrong person, because they got pressured into getting married early. Right, right.
Speaker 1:Right, right, absolutely, absolutely, I mean. And yeah, married her own person.
Speaker 2:So now you got that person and it's just, you know, they're just scattered brained, right? So when they meet someone else that's living a non-traditional path, that's happy with life and everything else, they kind of I wouldn't say they'd look down on you, but they're like you're not this and this and this and this and this, and I'm looking at them and their quality of life.
Speaker 1:Fuck, no, I'm not and I'm damn proud, right, it's like we all got our problems, like have you checked your own?
Speaker 2:problems. Check your own. Closet Is your life that great Right Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Is your life that great and, like you said, it's not about money. I you go on YouTube. It's real easy to find because I know we bring out a people of college degrees. It's not all the people of the college degrees, but oh no, the college degree is an example of this, this pathway, but then all the people who are pressured to become a lawyer or a doctor or this thing. Other thing that go into law is my and they do it. And then how many of them can you find who are like yeah, I got out of that cause it was.
Speaker 2:It wasn't great for me, bro, one of my friends make it all the money. All everything looks great. One of my best friends, okay Um, went to university Cincinnati, became a lawyer, still has his bar and all that, or whatever it's called Um, cause you know his whole family's like lawyers and successful college grads and everything else. Uh, his wife's an anesthesiologist. I just love this family to death. Yeah, he doesn't even practice law. He does Airbnb's and flips houses and does so many different investments because he's happier doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I mean and he's at a level now where he he does make a whole lot more probably doing that than being a lawyer and practicing law, right, um, but it's, it's, it's funny, but he's just a very hard, very powerful, like great work, ethic person man and and uh, he's been a great mentor for me throughout all my fuckups and stuff and really helped me learn a lot about myself and um, what's really cool about this guy, though?
Speaker 2:back to going about you know, judging people and stuff like that. Um, you know, you got me cat dad, never been married, no kids. Um, you know, alcoholic for a long time and fucking up and everything else. Um, didn't go to college, I mean paramedic school. It's college accredited, but I never received a degree, so like that mind you getting a paramedic, sir, no joke.
Speaker 1:So he, he, he may downplay that a little bit. I don't think he gets himself actually an accredited on that, but anyways, it was fun.
Speaker 2:But uh, so this dude, you know all the opposite family, all this stuff. He just takes me in like a brother and and you know the holidays I'm there and stuff like that. And uh shout out to Jesse, though he'll be up on here sometime. But uh, but living different path.
Speaker 1:So I mean, that was the whole point. You know, we have these things like me coming out here. People are like, oh, you gotta go get married and me come from where I come from. Oh, you gotta go to school. It was like these are options, these are things you could do.
Speaker 1:There are some potentials, but you find find your own, find your own way, absolutely. It's essentially the equivalent to critical thinking and innovation. You know, school may some schools may not teach you To quickly think of the things, but that's the most important thing Learning to use your brain to try to live the best life that you can. You know, and I don't have any kids, but and I I got my own struggle, so I'm a very formal, a leg person, so I would have to deal with that. But trying to help them to realize like, hey, there are all these good things in life. Let's to figure out what works best for you. And then you had to always continue to evaluate. Here are some guidelines that might help treat people well, that's a generally good guideline.
Speaker 1:But be kind is a generally good guideline. But you know every you know. But you got to figure out your own life. Be kind, have a good attitude.
Speaker 2:What I've realized, and just yesterday, for some reason, I didn't have a good like I didn't have. I wasn't feeling positive, you know. So then I just I take a day to reset, make sure I work out, nap as much as I want, whatever, you know, I'm not going to be able to do that. Um, finally, I didn't eat junk food.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice.
Speaker 2:You know I've, after the holidays, I fell back into that, using junk food as a drug type thing. But um, I didn't eat junk food, nice. And I just realized like, okay, today I don't have like the best mindset, like the most positive mindset, I don't have it. So I'm going to take the day off, I'm just going to work out and then I'm going to just chill out, hang out. I should have did that. So I avoided, I avoided contact. I know I called you back, but I didn't call you back until I finally made it to the gym and got on the treadmill. That's true, cause that's when things are starting to come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Once you get your endorphins up, that's when that's where the positive starts to happen again, anytime you go exercise just to tie into the last episode, because we were talking about the power of saying no and him not calling me back is like, not like a hard no. I was just like he's saying no right now. I need to get myself situate before I come out into the world. So that's that's an example of the last episode, that's a clear example of that and that's the.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. We have that relationship, yeah, we have that relationship, and Rob's the same way, and we all know like, if we don't answer, that's cool, we're busy, that's off to do. Yeah, I'll get mad at somebody if they answer the phone and they're busy doing something. I'm like man, no, call me back, right.
Speaker 1:Like it's good Right, it's good Right, I will message you if it's an emergency. You don't get back to me. You are probably unavailable.
Speaker 2:Period, absolutely. I get more mad when people don't call me because they're afraid I'm busy, because I know I'm always busy, all right, but I'd rather people call me and if I can't answer it. I'll call them back, yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's no biggie.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the whole be kind positive attitude.
Speaker 1:I mean that's huge Right. And then exploring why, why be kind, you know all those things can be discussed. So I think you're so right, you know trying to live particular frameworks, I mean it's such a rough or failure or rigid. I should say that more rigid structures and life is life is organic. No, you know, it's flexible.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's. Life is flexible, all like. You cannot predict any of it. You can hope for the best, you can work the hardest to get what you want, but nothing's guaranteed in life and you cannot say you know, in five years I'm going to do this, in five years I'm going to. It's really a fucking hard. All you can do day by day is make deposits in life, exercise, rest tell your friends you love them, yep.
Speaker 2:You know you just day by day, because I feel like if you're looking into society's expectations of life in a traditional setting, I'm going to say you know, you're just setting yourself up for failure because it's going to happen in your life, right, and if you just lived the whole childhood growing up, you're raised to believe all of this should happen and everything else. And it doesn't happen like it should, like you thought it should, like you just told it should. You're going to spiral out so fucking hard into addictions, the mental health, like you're not going to know what to do and you're going to be angry.
Speaker 1:You may be angry. Mind you, I do not come from a traditional kind of upbringing background and my life has definitely not been. But I ascribe to a lot of the traditional ways of looking at things and it's like my life is okay, but the things I was promised they ain't show up like the way they said they were going to show up.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and it's just a simple thing. I might end up writing a book on this, but you know, I Amaro's talked to someone older person, good, good people, but we're talking about millions this is kind of a top topic that comes up or people in that younger generation group, cause technically we're getting a little older. But you know, you know just a general idea that a certain group might be privileged or might not want to work, or I'm like I think about my group and, like you know, people may think we're entitled but we were told to do steps ABC and to expect this. Now, when we do steps a, b and C to the best of our ability and we don't get what we were told we would get, does that really make us entitled?
Speaker 1:or just led astray misguided misguided, and and then you blame and call us entitled. You told us to do this.
Speaker 2:And the people that blame us and call us entitled are the ones that raised us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and so, and for me, you know, I look at that as just it the lack of accountability or insight into what has been at least American culture for last 20, 30 years, and not paying attention like, hey, this is how this group was taught Maybe not everyone, cause every region is different, but this is a big issue. Maybe we should not treat this generation like crap.
Speaker 2:Bro. That's why I absolutely love and adore people that go against the grain, whether it's just this crazy looking haircut because it's different, yep, yep. Or it's the way they talk yeah, it's their careers. Yeah, I absolutely love hearing or hearing about or meeting people that go against the grain and have succeeded. Yeah, yeah, you know there's there's shit that I do. There's there's shit that we do as a team that's very against the grain when it comes to marketing, cause we don't do traditional, we don't print paper and everything else, but we run a whole digital marketing company. We use the AI a lot Right Right now. That's very against the grain. People are still scared of AI.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get you, but that goes back to life is organic. I guess the point I was going to make with the millennial thing as well was that times change, the events that happen change, and so things can't necessarily be stuck to a rigid structure because stuff is gonna change. Print media is not what it was 50 years ago. No, if you're paying attention to it, you're not gonna go that pathway, at least not as your main thing. You're not gonna sink tons of money into it. No, now you may sink some money to and I'm not an expert now you can speak more to that but everything that I have heard and learned, it's a waste of time making that. You're only in main source.
Speaker 2:Everything is digital, is online, it's social like this you have to adapt this podcast, you know that and in, like you have to adapt all the marketing strategies, just like you have to adapt to everything else in life. Yeah, if you're trying to run newspaper ads only all the time it's gonna suck because the newspaper now comes like once a month, if that right. So I mean obviously things change right, people evolve, so we know 20 years from now we might be right back to print, because everyone's like, you know how everyone's going back to vinyl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, music. So you just don't know. But you, you do. You have to put your energy into stuff and and evolve with it, or I mean you're gonna be left in the dark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you gotta something that might make you live against the grain, because these mindsets might still be stuck in the past. But we got a little in the present right with an eye on what's happening.
Speaker 2:But there's like brothers, like kids on YouTube that just like unbox their toys and their millionaires Me never talking about that.
Speaker 1:You know we're growing up, you gotta go cause gotta do this, like now we know of family members. I think, thank you. One of our family members like, yeah, I want to go be a YouTube star is like people are being. People are actually getting credential as being like famous youtubers. Like famous youtuber is actually a thing. Career.
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually a career and it's just consistency and energy, because it's literally like if we did this podcast every day and livestreamed on every platform Everything else it probably go somewhere. Yeah, right, so it's consistency and energy, yeah, but what's really great is these kids and found an opportunity. You know they found out.
Speaker 1:They found out I am. Despite all the craziness of the world, I am glad that at least Kids, adults, whoever people are finding this digital change is giving more resources to people. So that they can do the things that they want to do and enjoy. You know, we this podcast to your point. Could you imagine, maybe you, but could you imagine been being on a radio when you were like 12 years old, 13 years old?
Speaker 2:Oh, no way.
Speaker 1:How this? No, it's not happening not.
Speaker 2:Very, I mean, we're doing stuff right now but now I can't imagine five years ago. Yeah, well, men, you just met probably five, what six years ago. We're doing stuff right now that I didn't even dream of yeah, yeah, and we were talking big anyways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we're talking about this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked this into existence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's what's kind of fun is just having those conversations with your friends and dreaming big and stuff, because I mean, if you Don't dream it, you're not gonna build it, and so some people may not their worldview May not be big, you know, or they are very view may not be able to be as big as yours, and so that's kind of go back to like who's in my circle, who's not, and those whose worldview isn't as big. You know, if someone says something that doesn't I mean this is a less for me. Someone says something to me I'm like, oh, how does that work? I had to take a step back. It's like you know what, as long as they find a way to make it work, it will work.
Speaker 1:Oh, I need to chair them on like. I don't know how you're gonna do that, but I want, I want.
Speaker 2:I want you to do it and I want to watch and I want to be involved.
Speaker 1:Yes, let me help you, however I can. You go live your best life, because your life is your life. Yeah, it's wild. Wow, life is wild. I never thought I'd be in Richmond, indiana, from Philadelphia, only Tuesday. We have.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not really that. I never thought I'd be able to pronounce a dead. Well, you want to wrap her up? Yeah, it's been like an hour, but uh yeah, man, that's a lot of good stuff. I mean, like I said, it's just one person watches this. I love them Because maybe they can build on it, you know yeah they'll help them get through the week.
Speaker 1:We believe in things. Yeah, we believe in you, believe in you, you can do it be crazy.
Speaker 2:You're craziest ideas like I want to hear them. That would be really cool.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'll be shared. A crazy idea. Man, that'd be so awesome.
Speaker 2:I mean, just think about some of the craziest fucking ideas that came to fruition Amazon.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That picture of Bezos in his garage or a little room with that spray painted Amazon on it, you know? Look what it is now. Yeah, yeah, gary V in the wine library. Gary V over there working in a Liquor store yeah for his day, early 30s, and then he built that up for his dad and then, like here you go. And then he went on and did yeah, vaynermedia, yeah, so I mean, those were all once just crazy ideas. Yeah, just like everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah let's hear them. But All right, bro, Love you life inscripted with Kevin shook.
